08 October 2022 — Emacs Research Group
2022-10-08 Sat — Noorah Alhasan, Joe Corneli, Leo Vivier08 October 2022 — Emacs Research Group
Check-ins
NA
feeling under the weather; most likely seasonal cold/allergies
We featured in Noorah’s dreams! Leo showed up half-naked...; Joe accused NA of stealing his book which was Belgium’s constitution.
LV: Not too unrealistic, and besides Joe does love his books
JC: Dreams are cool :-)
NA: People are usually harbingers of something else...
JC
Feels sorry about the low-energy from last week (but everything’s fine!)
LV
Doing fine, has a wound on his shin from biking
Weekending progresses apace
Meta points
TODO Don't forget to record the session!
TODO Pre-PAR — Review the intention: what do we expect to learn or make together?
We had ‘almost’ created a recurring meeting with Abby, but she was quite busy with the start of the semester.
We had a lot of meetings w/ her prior to the semester starting
Thursday best for NA and probably all of us.
Agenda (Part 1): “Review of workshop”
What do we need from Abby?
A list of attendees, for both workshops.
Do we want different list of requirements between this proto-workshop and the future ones?
JC’s further work on patterns
We can review this today and ask Abby for her thoughts as well on Thursday
Collective review:
brittleness?
chaos as a pattern
trivial: partic*-*ipants?
Our ship metaphor is building on other ship metaphors (like the polis as a ship for the Ancient Greeks)
Dissolving boundaries : “we only see nature as something to consume”
Feedback on ¶: Patterns, Dissolving boundaries, etc.
It sums up a lot of our common ground to create a good working environment (e.g., ‘the ocean’)
But, regarding the workshop itself, thinking about ‘social contract’ and ‘X contract’, I’m not sure how relevant it is for our presentation of the workshop methods...
We need to be careful about what we put in the heads of participants when we get started
Some of the things will be thought-provoking, but if we talk too much about ‘dissolving boundaries’ (removing identity as well as expertise)
People may be too aware of the process...!
Some of the points ought to be mentioned before we start the workshop (a blurb); some of the things might need to be communicated after the workshop to explain why
JC: also the midway point where we’ll introduce different things to different people
If we talk about ‘dissolution of self relative to environment’ — this should be entirely done by Phase I
"This is what allowed us to go to the very bottom of the problem as citizens"
"As we’re now going to mobilise your expertise, be aware that we’ve now dissolved the boundaries between all of you; we’ve also dissolved you with regard to your environment"
BREAK
Agenda (Part 2): "All tech business"
Idea: AM’s tech-demo?
If you type a word, it will recognise that it’s a dog...
But there’s no further brain...
Implementation: Walk through of Joe’s grant
Features of text tools:
Add concept modelling (based on Noorah’s work)
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PAR
1. Establish what is happening: what and how are we learning?
We’re taking a laid-back meeting, staying to about one hour
JC: Perfect day here in the UK
NA: Antidote to the SADs!
LV: I decided to share a little less and focus on what I want to share rather than having constant logorhea... I don’t need to steal the show w/ a long rant about X and Y.
JC: Mind can create pain or make it go away, apparently.
LV: I wish I could wish away pain!
NA: I hate how much it distracts you from other things
LV: It’s like a buzzing fly, it doesn’t produce a lot of noise, but it can be still annoying partly because there’s no pattern
2. What are some different perspectives on what's happening?
NA: How do you do the emojis?
LV: Emojis look wrong in Org Bullets!
I used to love Nyan cat but I realised it was very distacting
JC: Let’s not over-design our stuff
3. What did we learn or change?
"Fly" is feminine in both Arabic and French
NA: I can guess the gender of French words based on Arabic
LV: It’s possible that there are language borrowings
Sun/Moon gender is opposite in French and German
LV: I recommend the retelling of "The Stranger" from a different perspective by Kamel Daoud
NA: Worth rereading "The Stranger"
LV: I read "The Plague" ("La Peste") by Camus before Covid!
LV: "When Annie Ernaux says ‘I’, the reader feels ‘we’."
4. What else should we change going forward?
More chat time is good
Short sessions sometimes are OK
Tentative agenda for next week
Meeting with Abby
EmacsConf Conference
Workshop
JC: I want to share my Google Calendar for the week on Monday so I don’t miss important things
NA: Won’t be around next Saturday
Check-out
NA
Going back to bed, and may order Thai food
JC: I met my old neighbour who’s the proprietor of Shakti Kitchen.
JC
I have lots of Algerian food to eat later
LV
Hungry and going to go cook now, I was supposed to have something here now, but don’t, so I must cook
Healing my leg...
NA: Ouch!!! Did you get a tetanus shot?
I couldn’t have done it better if I wanted to get a tattoo
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